On a recent SwimSwam podcast, despite making one of the worst hot-takes imaginable (that shall not be repeated here), one of the points I made was that we generally tend to under-estimate surprises in our picks for who makes the Olympic Team and that YanYan was right to pick Dare Rose and Alec Enyeart. Not necessarily because I think those two, specifically, have a high likelihood of making the team, but that there will very likely be somebody like that.
I went back and looked at what happened in the lead-up to the Tokyo Olympics. Looking at the World Rankings for 2020 is a bit odd, in light of some minor world event that year, so instead, I looked at 2019. How did our team rank in 2019?
World Rank | U.S. Rank | Name | Event |
1 | 1 | Katie Ledecky | W 800 Free |
1 | 1 | Katie Ledecky | W 1500 Free |
1 | 1 | Regan Smith | W 100 Back |
1 | 1 | Lilly King | W 100 Breast |
1 | 1 | Hali Flickinger | W 200 Fly |
1 | 1 | Caeleb Dressel | M 100 Free |
1 | 1 | Caeleb Dressel | M 100 Fly |
1 | 1 | Caeleb Dressel | M 50 Free |
2 | 1 | Katie Ledecky | W 400 Free |
2 | 1 | Annie Lazor | W 200 Breast |
2 | 1 | Ryan Murphy | M 200 Back |
2 | 1 | Jay Litherland | M 400 IM |
3 | 1 | Simone Manuel | W 50 Free |
3 | 1 | Ryan Murphy | M 100 Back |
4 | 2 | Lilly King | W 200 Breast |
6 | 1 | Emma Weyant | W 400 IM |
6 | 1 | Chase Kalisz | M 400 IM |
7 | 1 | Katie Ledecky | W 200 Free |
7 | 2 | Alex Walsh | W 200 IM |
7 | 2 | Michael Andrew | M 50 Free |
7 | 3 | Regan Smith | W 200 Fly |
7 | 4 | Zach Apple | M 100 Free |
8 | 2 | Andrew Wilson | M 200 Breast |
8 | 3 | Erica Sullivan | W 1500 Free |
8 | 5 | Blake Pieroni | M 100 Free |
9 | 1 | Andrew Wilson | M 100 Breast |
9 | 2 | Michael Andrew | M 200 IM |
9 | 2 | Zach Harting | M 200 Fly |
10 | 1 | Bobby Finke | M 1500 Free |
10 | 3 | Abbey Weitzeil | W 100 Free |
11 | 1 | Andrew Seliskar | M 200 Free |
12 | 3 | Torri Huske | W 100 Fly |
12 | 3 | Chase Kalisz | M 400 IM |
13 | 1 | Bobby Finke | M 800 Free |
13 | 2 | Abbey Weitzeil | W 50 Free |
13 | 3 | Allison Schmitt | W 200 Free |
13 | 3 | Nic Fink | M 200 Breast |
14 | 2 | Townely Haas | M 200 Free |
14 | 4 | Katie McLaughlin | W 200 Free |
18 | 3 | Kieran Smith | M 200 Free |
18 | 8 | Phoebe Bacon | W 200 Back |
19 | 4 | Erika Brown | W 100 Free |
19 | 6 | Tom Shields | M 100 Fly |
20 | 8 | Hali Flickinger | W 400 IM |
22 | 4 | Michael Andrew | M 100 Breast |
23 | 6 | Bryce Mefford | M 200 Back |
25 | 2 | Kieran Smith | M 400 Free |
25 | 7 | Claire Curzan | W 100 Fly |
27 | 4 | Michael Brinegar | M 1500 Free |
27 | 7 | Zach Apple | M 200 Free |
28 | 3 | Jake Mitchell | M 400 Free |
30 | 10 | Kate Douglass | W 200 IM |
31 | 7 | Olivia Smoliga | W 100 Free |
36 | 8 | Paige Madden | W 200 Free |
37 | 9 | Catie DeLoof | W 100 Free |
38 | 4 | Michael Brinegar | M 800 Free |
40 | 10 | Allison Schmitt | W 100 Free |
42 | 10 | Brooke Forde | W 200 Free |
43 | 11 | Natalie Hinds | W 100 Free |
46 | 9 | Drew Kibler | M 200 Free |
49 | 17 | Paige Madden | W 400 Free |
51 | 11 | Patrick Callan | M 200 Free |
62 | 15 | Bowe Becker | M 100 Free |
65 | 23 | Katie Grimes | W 800 Free |
67 | 16 | Lydia Jacoby | W 100 Breast |
88 | 19 | Hunter Armstrong | M 100 Back |
105 | 30 | Rhyan White | W 200 Back |
135 | 35 | Rhyan White | W 100 Back |
186 | 34 | Gunnar Bentz | M 200 Fly |
– | 40 | Brooks Curry | M 100 Free |
– | 125 | Bella Sims | W 200 Free |
We did have several #1 rankings, even in 2019. Familiar names like Katie Ledecky (twice), Caeleb Dressel (three times), Lilly King, Regan Smith, and Hali Flickinger. Out of the 71 person-events on the team, 29 (40.8%) had a top-10 world ranking in 2019, and 48 (67.6%) had a top-25 world ranking.
But as you can see in that table, there were some swimmers who ended up making the Tokyo team who maybe weren’t on the radar as much as necessarily strong candidates. Hunter Armstrong in 2019 was only the 88th-ranked man in the 100 back, and just barely cracked the top 20 among Americans. Rhyan White wasn’t in the top 100 in the world or the top 30 among Americans in either backstroke event. And neither Brooks Curry in the 100 free nor Bella Sims in the 200 free even ranked in the top 200 in the world at the time (recall that amazing post-swim press conference with where the rest of the 4×100 free relay found out how recently Curry made the Wave II Trials cut in the event), with Sims not even being amongst the top 100 Americans.
In contrast, Dare Rose was 15th in the world in the 100 fly last year (51.40), and Alec Enyeart was 60th in the 800 free (7:58.68) and 40th in the 1500 free (15:12.70). Neither seems that far-fetched, from this perspective.
Alright, maybe 2021 was a weird year. Let’s look at something more normal: the 2016 Olympics in Rio. How did that team rank in 2014?
World Rank | U.S. Rank | Name | Event |
1 | 1 | Katie Ledecky | W 400 Free |
1 | 1 | Katie Ledecky | W 800 Free |
1 | 1 | Michael Phelps | M 100 Fly |
2 | 1 | Katie Ledecky | W 200 Free |
2 | 1 | Ryan Lochte | M 200 IM |
2 | 2 | Tom Shields | M 100 Fly |
3 | 1 | Tom Shields | M 200 Fly |
3 | 2 | Chase Kalisz | M 400 IM |
3 | 2 | Michael Phelps | M 200 IM |
4 | 1 | Cammile Adams | W 200 Fly |
4 | 1 | Elizabeth Beisel | W 400 IM |
4 | 1 | Anthony Ervin | M 50 Free |
5 | 1 | Maya DiRado | W 200 IM |
5 | 1 | Simone Manuel | W 100 Free |
5 | 1 | Kevin Cordes | M 200 Breast |
5 | 1 | Nathan Adrian | M 100 Free |
5 | 2 | David Plummer | M 100 Back |
6 | 1 | Connor Jaeger | M 1500 Free |
6 | 2 | Missy Franklin | W 200 Back |
6 | 2 | Melanie Margalis | W 200 IM |
6 | 2 | Ryan Murphy | M 200 Back |
7 | 2 | Maya DiRado | W 400 IM |
7 | 3 | Ryan Murphy | M 100 Back |
8 | 1 | Connor Jaeger | M 400 Free |
8 | 1 | Kevin Cordes | M 100 Breast |
8 | 2 | Missy Franklin | W 200 Free |
8 | 2 | Nathan Adrian | M 50 Free |
9 | 1 | Simone Manuel | W 50 Free |
10 | 1 | Conor Dwyer | M 200 Free |
11 | 2 | Cody Miller | M 100 Breast |
12 | 2 | Ryan Lochte | M 200 Free |
12 | 3 | Allison Schmitt | W 200 Free |
12 | 4 | Jacob Pebley | M 200 Back |
13 | 3 | Jordan Wilimovsky | M 1500 Free |
18 | 2 | Kathleen Baker | W 100 Back |
18 | 3 | Leah Smith | W 400 Free |
18 | 5 | Jay Litherland | M 400 IM |
19 | 4 | Hali Flickinger | W 200 Fly |
19 | 6 | Katie Meili | W 100 Breast |
20 | 3 | Josh Prenot | M 200 Breast |
21 | 4 | Abbey Weitzeil | W 50 Free |
26 | 5 | Leah Smith | W 200 Free |
26 | 5 | Lia Neal | W 100 Free |
27 | 3 | Anthony Ervin | M 100 Free |
27 | 7 | Leah Smith | W 800 Free |
28 | 4 | Kelsi Dahlia | W 100 Fly |
29 | 6 | Abbey Weitzeil | W 100 Free |
31 | 7 | Amanda Weir | W 100 Free |
34 | 7 | Cierra Runge | W 200 Free |
35 | 8 | Lilly King | W 200 Breast |
35 | 8 | Allison Schmitt | W 100 Free |
39 | 6 | Olivia Smoliga | W 100 Back |
41 | 6 | Jimmy Feigen | M 100 Free |
46 | 8 | Conor Dwyer | M 400 Free |
52 | 12 | Melanie Margalis | W 200 Free |
54 | 8 | Molly Hannis | W 200 Breast |
58 | 9 | Townley Haas | M 200 Free |
89 | 25 | Maya DiRado | W 200 Back |
114 | 22 | Blake Pieroni | M 100 Free |
153 | 32 | Caeleb Dressel | M 100 Free |
176 | 28 | Jack Conger | M 200 Free |
– | 35 | Gunnar Bentz | M 200 Free |
– | 95 | Ryan Held | M 100 Free |
– | – | Dana Vollmer | W 100 Fly |
– | – | Dana Vollmer | W 100 Free |
– | – | Michael Phelps | M 200 Fly |
This isn’t actually all that different. We have 66 person-events (two fewer Olympic events back then), and again 29 (43.9%) top-10 rankings and 41 (62.1%) top-25 rankings. So it’s still a fairly significant percentage of the team was highly ranked in the world, even two years out.
But not all of the team. Maya DiRado may have been 5th and 7th in the 200 and 400 IMs, respectively, but she was just 89th in the world, and just 25th amongst Americans, in the 200 back. Nevertheless, she went on to win gold in that event in Rio. And, as we saw leading up to Tokyo, we have three cases of someone not even in the top 100 in the world and two more not even in the top 200. Ryan Held was just 95th amongst Americans in the 100 free in 2014, makes the team in the 4×100 free relay in 2016, and even swam in the Olympic FInal.
I have to note two especially odd things as far as the 2016 team is concerned: Dana Vollmer didn’t even swim in 2014, and had her first child in early 2015. And Michael Phelps didn’t swim the 200 fly in 2014, apparently. But I’m not sure we can draw too many conclusions from those two. Phelps is… Phelps, and Dana Vollmer had been making international teams for more than a decade at that point too.
So what’s the conclusion here? It seems a good bet that most of the Paris 2024 team will have been in the top 25 in the world rankings last year. But it’s likely that a few will be outside of the top 100, or maybe even outside the top 200. Braden, for instance, picked Kaii Winkler to make the 4×100 free relay. He was ranked 158th last year in the 100 free. To be clear, I’m not saying that makes Winkler a lock here – just that it shouldn’t necessarily be a surprise if somebody ranked this low last year does make their way onto the team next year.
Kaii Winkler is the sleeper pick of the century. Kid’s making a team eventually, would be insane to see it happen in 2024!
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The greatest surprise would be Katie Ledecky skips 20OFR and 400FR but races 800FR, 1500FR and 400IM in Paris.
She will probably skip the 200 (even though the schedule was basically redone to suit her perfectly). No way she skips the 400 free for 400 IM.
Why not? If you expect Kate Douglass to perform well in LCM after setting NCAA, American and US Open records in SCY events then why to not expect same from Ledecky who also held once such records in 400IM SCY and still is the second best performer ever bettering Hosszu’s results.
I don’t expect Kate Douglass to translate her SCY success to LCM lol.
But anyway, Ledecky’s PB is 4:35.77 from last year. McIntosh swam a 4:28.61. So Ledecky would need to drop 7 seconds just to have a chance at gold, and I’m expecting McIntosh to improve more by Paris.
The 400 Free is one of Ledecky’s signature events and she is basically guaranteed a bronze at absolute worst. She could very easily end up off the podium in the 4IM.
I say she doesn’t do this because:
Ummm did you forget that Ledecky has a 4:24 in the 500 SCY free (basically the SCY version of the 400 free)
I didn’t forget anything. If she has to make her decision tomorrow then it will be obvious: 400FR. But we are talking about situation 2 seasons ahead.
If you check the distribution of Ledecky’s results in 400FR you will come to the conclusion that Ledecky is 3:58 swimmer. That that is what she most likely produce in racing. Being faster requires her to be under special conditions that in two seasons may not happen. Will be 3:58 enough. Who knows. For both Titmus and McIntosh their progress curve during next two years is a wild guess.
Now with the exception of McIntosh the competition in 400IM regressed actually in recent years. Will Ledecky swim 4:28? I doubt it.… Read more »
400FR is a very stressful competition being at the very beginning of the meet. In Tokyo it killed her program putting too much of physical and mental pressure on her. Performing actually very well in the race (when 3:57 was bad?) she lost it and after that underperformed severally in all other her events but the relay. When have you seen Ledecky crying after 15:38? If she has about same chances for podium in 400FR and 400IM then 400IM looks more attractive. In 400FR there is some kind of obligation to win. The 400IM is stress free. At least mentally.
What do you mean Tokyo killed her program? She won two golds and two silvers. That’s the third best result of any female swimmer in Tokyo lol. And her times in 2022 were significantly better after she dropped the 200 free.
The 400IM is also two days after the 400 Free, so it would have her doing 4 events in 6 days instead of 4 events in 8 days. With all her distance events, she’s going to want to spread her events out.
You perfectly know what I mean.
15:38, 8:12, 1:55 are not times that you would expect Ledecky to swim at Olympic Games being fully rested and tapered. She was faster in-season. Can you explain that? I see only one reason: she was physically and emotionally exhausted after 400 race. Who could possibly expect just a few months before OG that 3:57 low won’t be enough for the win. She was in great shape before this race, but not after.
Actually we can say same about Titmus. Her performance in 200 events (individual & relay) was well below expectations.
Yes, she has to drop about 5sec from her personal best. Is it plausible? Hosszu did it in Rio in one season at the same actually age. Ledecky had two seasons ahead. And there are two very weak legs (fly, back) that can be improved significantly by freestyler.
Why would she skip 400 freestyle? Two people in the world have a chance to beat her. Challenge them to do it.
Because she cannot do both. And if there would be a noticeable progress in 400IM the choice between these two events in the Olympic program isn’t obvious.
Yes, she is established performer in 400FR and it seems natural for her to compete there. But as two time gold medalist Robert Finke said about 400 event – it is too fast.
I think the competition in 400FR is much more demanding.
What about Kathleen Baker?
There were a few surprises in some of the Trials in the 80’s and 90’s as I recall. Some younger swimmers especially who came out of nowhere and didn’t really sustain high levels much longer after Trials, to the extent of even some indifferent swims at the Olympics. I guess this was more prevalent back when Trials was a Prelims-Finals format, instead of P-S-F across two days. There are also the stories of favorites not making the teams after long periods at the top of the rankings, and who are picked by many to make the Team.
Craig Beardsley(sp?)
Great analysis. Surprises are part of what makes Trial so exciting.
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Link the curry moment pls I am begging
Linked with time stamp 🙂
Zapple and Caeleb’s reaction is pretty priceless
I love Barry Revzin articles. Please keep them coming!